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I agree about the cup games, not so much about the play-in tournament.

Whether it's an improvement over the traditional 1-8 method is debatable, but its games should definitely count as playoff games of a preliminary round.

The 1957 games were exactly that - without the "play-in" title - and counted as playoff games.

The NCAA play-in games, also known as "First Four", count for record purposes if memory serves me correctly.

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